Caught in the act, Hugi declared that Christie only said that because she was pressed for an answer.
Someone can have an evil vibe and not be guilty of a crime. Unfortunately, there isn't much information about his whereabouts as he keeps a low profile. He is in his 70s now and his photo is not on his linkedin or anywhere I could find. Hey Jace, I was not going to post your insulting comments but I decided to let the last sentence fly so that I could answer it. If she was such a manipulative person, she would not be in prison for life, would she? Yep, Downs who was found guilty in 1984, escaped successfully from the Oregon Womens Correctional Center in 1987 and was transferred to Jersey afterwards. Did she act like a average person? Her trial was speculative and based on so many fallacies. I am interested in the truth.
Halo's Master Chief TV Show Actor Won't Try To Replicate Steve Downes I try to remain objective in spite of the media storm depicting the case in a certain way, which is not accurate in every aspect. No other shooter involved in her case. had to wait for Christie to be able to tell them who did it. I try to bring up the elements that were totally ignored. Foster Carers says either Australia or England to me. A demonstration in court strongly suggested: Suggested, not confirmed. She was found guilty.
Did Anyone Watch 20/20 Last Night? - Page 3 - Blogs & Forums - QVC Back in Phoenix, Arizona, in Moon Valley High School, Steve Downs met Elizabeth Diane for the first time. Diane Downs' ex husband, Steve Downs, lost a lot in May 1983 when his ex wife shot their three children, following their divorce in 1980. She had been isolated from her whole family and being unethically interrogated. Gregory Foote who had denied access to the children by all blood relatives and given their care over to the State, was promoted from juvenile to senior judge to preside over the trial of Diane Downs.. I agree that the verdict may have been very different. In this Battle of Cutthroats, Who has lost their head? She may be highly vulnerable to losing control of her emotions in emotionally charged situations, creating faulty judgment and ineffective and inappropriate behavior. Diane was known for her love of all animals whichshe treated with great care, and for her independent and wild streak. But Ann Rules utterly biased account is an insult to investigative journalism and there seems to be very reasonable doubt here. I do not have to state anything at the beginning of the blog. As soon as Diane was found guilty, Hugi demanded that Diane be evaluated by a psychiatrist before sentencing so they could declare her a dangerous offender and give her a stiffer sentence. 0. Even on a worldwide scale, the age of accountability is considered to be twelve years old. That testimony was left unchallenged by Mr. Jagger. Even put in different hospitals. They are the ones who considered Dianes children as, To this day, his record is mixed; his law license was suspended for, Belli filed a motion for a 2-week extension to familiarize himself with the case because he had to be in Italy, and declared Diane innocent in a press conference, but Foote denied the motion and declared . In fact, with her continuing to deny committing the crime or expressing remorse, she may never get out. http://www.manipulatedtrial.de/oregon_s_small_sacrifices_1603.pdf. Is it the one you tried to use? The child was adopted and was later named Rebecca. At the time, among 49 prisoners denied parole, the board had given only four inmates, including Downs, a 10-year wait. The towel and a girl who had a stroke, was separated from her family and was constantly questioned without being recorded or accompanied by a loved one and testifying to facts that do not match the testimony of the forensic expert is not being reduced to conjecture? Page 26 of Case History. The Diane Downs' Case Was no Small Sacrifice On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane Downs and her three small children were shot on a country road near Springfield, Oregon. Those cases shouldnt have been in the same court let alone presided over by the same judge. As we have reported in great detail in the past, Diane Downs could not possibly have committed the crime of shooting her children, or there would have been evidence of gunpowder residue and blood. 4.Diane was NOT arrested for almost a year after the shootings the d.a. I look forward to reading your other blogs. Christie was born in October of 1974 and Cheryl Lynn in January of 1976. Where are Steve Downs children now? Golden State Killer: Where Is the Prolific Rapist and Murderer Today? WTF? He had an attorney, Fred G. Campbell Jr., send us a letter denying our request and telling us: You are legally, as well as factually, a stranger to them. Who does he think he is? So, were there any other attempted carjackings in the area that night? She has been denied parole 2x and is up again in 2020. He may still reside in Arizona, but there is no proof of the same. Spending 35 years incarcerated with time in isolation and often as a target is not going to improve mental health. She entertained the idea of opening a surrogacy agency but the project never really took off. After completing high school, Steve Downs went to join the Navy while Elizabeth Diane attended the Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College. The ballistics, gun, speed at which she drove the car, her demeanor, etc. And when kids are hurt, emotions keep flowing endlessly. But without proof, Diane couldnt implicate Steve Downs any more than she could shoot him as he violated a restraining order threatening to beat her AGAIN. It took months to get Christie to say that her mother was the culprit and that is when they arrested Diane. She then went through the State (Circuit) Court habeas corpus relief for four years to no avail. The DA that put away their mom is not an appropriate placement choice. Its more boring to tell the truth and the readers might not have flocked to read a fair story without no real heroes and villains. Completely unethical, and not in the best interest of those children. But there is forensic evidence pointing to Diane Downs. They said so and were told to go back to deliberate. No gun, no blood or gun residue on her and if she shot them, these elements should have been there. I am quite bothered by what happened in that courtroom and in the media. Diane Downs was convicted because she didn't appear "sorry enough" during her TV appearances. Nevertheless, what was done seemed out of our hands and we could have no contact with them at all. If you use this mixed water, you can lift off a gunpowder stain.. That same gun turned up at a police raid years later in Perris, California, and it did not match the ballistics from the shooting site. You simply are a rude individual looking for a reaction. The point is our trials need to be conducted fairly and based on evidence. She had been the bread winner for most of her marriage, and never wavered in her desire to bring financial stability to her family. I care about what was said at trial. I would like to believe this is the truth. However, when all the details came to be understood by the police, Steve found out what really happened to his kids. It isnt there all the time. Inside, outside, top to bottom. From the very beginning, the DAs office had their ducks in a row because in an unprecedented move, Judge Gregory Foote who had denied access to the children by all blood relatives and given their care over to the State, was promoted from juvenile to senior judge to preside over the trial of Diane Downs. This is an extremely tragic case and her children at the very least deserve justice. Why? Are you still taking comments by email? I feel sorry for Diane too. And other inmates were released with worst backgrounds. How could they expect a normal mother/daughter reunion between a beaten inmate whose mental health had degraded and a daughter trapped in this insanity? The bio family should have been given the same opportunity to see the kids and demonstrate their ability to be the guardians. Her power to manipulate is why she is where she is to begin with. Like I said, the 2 years make it a bit more of a gray area. Do not forget that she got letters of support from a warden and psychiatrist. The following article hopes to help you make more suitable choices and get more useful information Yes, I usually answer the emails I get about the blogs. There is so much to say about this blog I wouldnt know where to start. The blogger continues, I am not one sided. Because Foote was already familiar with the case, the presiding judge assigned him the murder trial after Downs was charged with the shootings. Whats wrong with the system is whats wrong with us. Speculative? Regina, I love your comment! Theres a lot to be said here, still. The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI: Downs lawyer at the time should have objected as the term was non existent. But you told Diane Downs to go ahead and get an apartment? Their marriage was described as tumultuous, with Downs allegedly disappearing for long periods of time with her children. Much worse. Diane needs some serious spiritual advancement and atonement before she ever will have or deserve peace. But Diane couldnt do that. It turned out to be a mistake because he was married to a County Circuit Court Judge who would become a colleague of Foote and he had no intention of defending Diane vigorously. Just a thought. The absence of the gun or gun powder residues on Diane is fact. Just saw the video of Dianes parole hearing. Mr. So it looks and sounds like she is getting special treatment because of her notoriety. Diane Downs was one of the most infamous murderers of the 1980s; the emotionally flat blonde was convicted of shooting her three children, killing one of them, along a roadway in Springfield,. At the point Diane jumped into the car, her broken arm (resting in a sling in front of her) slammed into the steering wheel. Read More: Where Is Robert Knickerbocker Now? I am a Mortuary science student, true crime fanatic, and have been following the Downs case since it happened. Diane did not get a fair trial. Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. How.. they attacked him. Diane doesnt believe Rebecca is her daughter, rather a media puppet ran by Rule. Being interested in a subject without bringing emotions to the table is always the most important step. Christie could not speak but after some rehab, she said repeatedly that she did not know who shot them. Downs: Oh yeah, I remember the pictures, too. Why would anyone think Christie could remember the night of the shooting anyway?? She was a first time offender who has shown no violent tendencies and is afflicted with a mental illness. I dont know how familiar she was with the area, but I do not think that it matters anyway. Seems like she was her worst enemy. she flat out says, they are saying Duran Duran made her shoot her kids!..Im like HUHOkay now this is my favorite groupstill is at 44yrs old.I had to investigate this. Even prosecutor Fred Hugi was seen walking the grounds to try to find the weapon. (Appendix 81, page 1466). The children had a father. They played the tape in the courtroom, and the fact that Diane did not break down but tapped her foot to the music, was supposed to be another proof of her guilt. "I knew within 30 minutes of talking with that woman that she was guilty": Surgeon who helped save one of Diane Downs' kids in 1983 after she shot her recalls chilling interaction. I am not from USA, never have been there, but my impression is that in USA media are far more powerful than the justice system and rational thinking is crushed by easy emotional moods, stereotypes and a hunger for violence coated in a pompous moral attitude. GSR can easily fall off just by brushing your hand against a surface. Strange how Jagger is pretty absent too except for the few photos where he is wrongly identified as Hugi. She found out who her biological mother was when she was 11 years old, ABC reported. I cannot be more transparent than that and integrity was one of the missing pieces of the entire case. She. When I hear some people say that they would have liked to smack that smirk off Dianes face when she interacted with the cops or the media, I sayreadthis to understand accounts of people laughing at the wrong time and how it is related to their personality disorder. What mother takes her kids out at night and then stops for a stranger with her kids in the car? Interesting that the article has one of the same elements that Diane perpetrated when she drove to the hospital the night of the murders she made more of a fuss about her arm injury than she did about one of her kids dying and two of them being gravely and permanently wounded. But they tended to ignore other important aspects. If the police department had done their job properly, I would not have written this blog, no matter the outcome. Only in Hollywood and in Ann Rules books, would you find such fantasy. did he have eyes in the back of his head.???? Until the end of the trial. There isnt a whole lot known about where Steve Downs is these days. (Feature Image Credit: ABC News / 20/20). In the spring of 1986, Christie confided to school mates that shed been coerced to lie in court, to implicate her mother (Appendix 1-2). That is the way she was brought up,especially at the demand of her rigid but verydedicated father. Modernism mixed with Medieval state of mind. The character of the accused is not the main ingredient, especially that in this case, there was a lot of bashing going on in the media and in court. After arriving at the nearest hospital where the nursing staff and doctors attended to the children, the police were called in and her parents arrived promptly. Nice to see this blog is still active in 2017, being a lot of groupsmessage boards and such, on subjects like this has no activity for years. The following article hopes to help you make more suitable choices and get more useful information The Case of Liysa Northon Who Said True Crime Does not Pay? Dianes father tried to hire Melvin Belli, but the judge refused to give him some time to prepare and come back to the US. You seem to believe everyone is innocent. Her 7-year old daughter Cheryl died but her 3-year old son Danny and her 8-year old daughter Christie survived. How do you expect the daughter to have any fair understanding of the situation or any decent contact with Dianes family when the people who have been calling her mother a murderer and a monster are dragging her in the media spotlight in the hope of writing another book or getting a new scoop, but all one sided. Diane downs. She (Diane) managed to jump in the car after getting shot in the arm. why didn't steve downs get custody. It is not clear whether he still resides in Arizona, where he started his relationship with Diane those many years ago. So how she behaved at the time, should not have been a factor influencing the authorities. Sad situation. It had nothing to do with the evidence of the case and represents useless labeling anyway. She is supposed to be locked up for murder, etc. Like in their movies. I cant believe anyone even believes or even follows you. Yes, like many Americans, I think that the US system is barbaric. You said yourself that the title was revealing. No worries. I wasnt there and the records will never be brought to light as far as the child welfare case. I state that it is not my place to judge innocence or guilt. It appears that you have to be a perfect mother with no lovers and not afflicted with any mental illness to be considered innocent until proven guilty in America.