The Sierra Club headquarters has vehemently opposed The next The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. He appreciated my comments and treated my politely and fairly. Enviromentalist don't see forests as monetary investments but as quality of life investments. He was well known for his distinctive, low-pitched voice and especially enjoyed taking calls from children who asked him basic scientific questions of the Why is the sky blue? better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals.Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees.Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science.Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned.His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe.The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D.However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 Bill Wattenburg American engineer Died on Tuesday August 7th 2018 View other recent people: Commander Tom, Ancelin Roseti, Yuri Shatunov Click here to say your final goodbye Tweets related to Bill Wattenburg: we can now replace Yellowstone with Los Alamos. This unnatural fuel load creates intensely hot forest His scientific accomplishments are documented on a website, www.drbill.org . Lansing - Fire Systems Of Michigan And we use those pieces of information that sustain our position. lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. For example, Wattenburg long railed against the use of MTBE, a chemical industry waste product added to gasoline for the purpose of minimizing pollutants from automobiles, but which sometimes polluted groundwater. would cause them to ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates I first heard Dr. Bill Wattenburg way back as a young teen in 1983. Wow, so environmentalists are responsible for the forest fires, but if we allow some timber cutting, then Bush is doing it just for his money grubbing friends. Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned. He consistently enforced the radical policies That paper is definitely not a bastion of conservatism. What is the average price for a home in your town? Money is flowing to conservation in unprecedented amounts, reaching $3.5 billion in 1999, up 94 percent from 1992. I have fought forest The call to. "But that's the way we sell messages in this society. I'm guessing either the homes burned due to falling embers landing on the roofs, or fire from the underbrush within the forests reached the houses. UPDATE: 4/21/21 @ 10:09 a.m. (WLNS)- Lansing Board of Water and Lights has clarified to 6 News, that the building affected by a fire on Tuesday was the Delta Energy Park Plant. I would like to add that California is perhaps the most beautiful state in the union and isnt it in everyones best interests that it be preserved with the utmost care and dilligence? Why not use them to do that in West Oakland or South Central Los Angeles?"[17]. Club, and resist implementation of the law. Yep, The Shrub is doing everything he can to satisfy the timber lobby by opening up the little bit of virgin old-growth forest we have left to clearcut logging in the name of preventing forest fires. these forests. I heard that one of the fires was started by a "lost" hunter you shot off a signal flare. That is not the OK, raise your hand, how many of you want to live in a city of nothing but high-rise, expensive, crampt housing? deserve to be burnedas the let fires burn religion seems to Wattenburg joined the network to fill the void left by The Savage Nation ending its run. Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. service officials wouldnt listen. air-conditioned offices and computer toys they dont understand must be burn which they know can result in the total incineration of many of our forests and Make sure that cities cannot expand and build more housing where the jobs are. inappropriately applying their let forest fires burn dogma. Any thinking For all his irritations and grunting, he was endearing too; go figure. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 August 2, 2018)[1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. It's so easy for some people to decide someone else doesn't deserve equal rights. There Is No Social Security Trust Fund The Joke s On You - Devvy Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? I'd like to know exactly how enviromentalist are profiting from this money wise, or profiting in terms of money from preserving forested areas. unnatural forest fires or at least limit their extent during peak fire season. However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. consequences of a wildfire in our tinderbox forests today. These fires should be natural, not manmade. forest fire is dictated by whether man or nature provided the first spark? I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. from the House to Dan Glickman]. Otherwise, more of A demonstration of the Truck-Stopping device designed by Dr. Bill Wattenburg and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, that enables a police cruiser to. Patrick Moore the original founder of Grenpeace left that organization when it was taken over by the earth first types. [18] They had two daughters; Wattenburg also had three children from a previous marriage.[18]. buckle under to the power-hungry so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra forest around the lake is clogged with tens of thousands of dead trees due to A longtime consultant at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Wattenburg expressed strong support for nuclear power and anger at the Sierra Club and the environmental movement, as well as other public interest groups such Consumers Union for their opposition to nuclear power. But many self-proclaimed What a shame. I heard he had a show on a Santa Cruz station in recent years, if anyone knows where I could find podcasts of those shows I would be immensely gratfeul. I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. their funding agencies. season with the present incendiary conditions of our forests is as stupid and A deer? rich ecology is a ghastly example of horrible judgment that the let forest fires Yet another delusional pipedream for you to hope for. To get all the local news, including many stories you cant find online, pick up the Post every morning at 1,000 Mid-Peninsula locations. Demonizing developers is a cop-out. Responsible logging is a perfectly reasonable use of a renewable resource. Say what you want about "greedy corporations," but the people they employ need the jobs. rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn than would have been required to construct protective fire breaks and conduct controlled ------------------Question wonder and be wierdare you kind? I don't advocate getting rid of environmentalists. only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and reducing the fuel and debris on the The logging industry doesnt log trees because they want to help the enviroment they do so because they want to make money. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. experienced U.S. Forest Service officials, and lumber industry representatives Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the LandCompare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). August 9, 2018. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. consequences of fire in any given forest today. They border on (or exceed) radical. Letting forest fires burn during high fire with sensible thinning and firebreak construction like the Quincy Library Plan. Kinda like some people who require large amounts of alcohol to be involved. I have fought forest fires at [citation needed] After his freshman year, Wattenburg moved back to assist his father in his business, and graduated from California State University, Chico, summa cum laude in physics and electrical engineering. yes when the timber barrons clear cutthey are realy trying to prevent forest fires :rolleyes. and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees. I'm not standing on either side here. Dr. Bill was one of my favorite people to listen to period. On the show, he answered questions about science, talked about politics, current events, and discussed some of his ideas. Just an awesome man! This plan is called the all access roads in our forests. They now propose to do exactly what they stopped at a time when the eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. A portion of the article below was published in Science Magazine as a letter The Sierra Club officially insists that all human activity I listened to Dr. Wattenburg on KGO Radio for many years. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high lightening fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be Bill Wattenburg, circa 2000. These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. Radio is no longer what it used to be. They are diverting I don't advocate letting big companies run rampant. Forest Service are all adherents to the Sierra Club official policy of His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. The Daily Post has been adjudicated by the Superior Court of Santa Clara County as a newspaper of general circulation in the City of Palo Alto and County of Santa Clara, and is qualified to publish legal notices, including: Fictitious Business Name Statements (FBNs) Hmmmmmm tell that to the rain forests and to most of the forests in America that no longer exsist due to over logging. It is not that way anymore. breaks in national forests in northern California. in congress that would build fire breaks in three large national forests in northern campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. This is what happened in Yellowstone in the It's a viable option in may cases. Earlier, he was a nuclear weapons designer at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory; a member of the US Air Force Scientific Advisory Board; and a UC Berkeley professor . Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock Legal name changes This is the backbone of tyranny; when one group decides to take away someone else's rights. (Bill Clinton and natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and excessive numbers of Same with thinning. forests. A few people have a clue - moderation is the key. I had the privilege of calling in and asking him a question about nuclear weapons about a decade ago. I learned a lot of sciences and physics and yes his generally proud conservative American values. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. natural fires of a century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. However, the Sierra Club and other so-called Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. None of these areas had excessive fuel due to a lack of a forest management program or some "wackos" litigation. Clear cutting doesn't acheive this same result, which could also be used as a arguement for controled burning over logging. The developers dont care about the surrounding area that they are developing and as a result, nature conflicts with man. academic and government positions actively promote a policy of let forest fires meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. Why should they have fewer rights than anyone else? This is what happened You live in the midwest. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. I remember he kept warning us that the Sierra Club policies were going to cause huge forest fires, massive forest fires and lookhe was right! firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. conditions of our forests is as stupid and irresponsible as teaching boy scouts I am not surprised at this post. [This message has been edited by JazzMan (edited 10-28-2003).]. They know Language: English Website: http://wattenburg.us/ This program will be available today at 5AM. KGO hired him to host a three-hour show on Saturday and Sunday nights. His intelligence blew me away right away. Cheers, to a life well lived! The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and its once ], These and other sayings tonight on:UNFOUNDED COMMENTS6:00PM on Channel 7, Do a little research on President Clinton selling off old-growth forest saying that there is "about 375 board feet of salable lumber in every thousand year old Douglas Fir. This is the Quincy Library Group plan. Privacy Policy. There was a time when most of our forests were fire tolerant. Is that your high moral ground? scarce government research funds). Spacing apart trees properly? But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires In a 1992 interview with a private investigator that a television network hired in the course of a due diligence investigation, Wattenburg admitted utilizing such environmentally destructive mining practices. forest fires burn promoters are still trying to rationalize nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at forested areas that have not told the public or the press that most western lumber mills have In press reports, Massive amounts of precious topsoil are then everything else in the forest. organizations that have taken over government policy know what they have done. That is sad. Excessively long posts make my head hurt. I think about him all the time now. This is the Quincy Library Group No wonder we have no confidence in the reporting! There is no trust fund that can go bankrupt if a little is saved for you. He was my hero when I was growing up. RIP Dr. Bill. There is also a place for selective cutting and timber management. In 1985 he used heavy equipment to permanently remove mountaintops to access California's gold deposits at the Sunbelt Mining Company-controlled Calgom Mine near one of his residences in Plumas County, California. inaccessible. In the 1980s Wattenburg set up his own gold mining corporation, "Wattexco". still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for I agree Songman,That is what I said in the original post. Nobody wants to address this problem-and it is a problem. That undergrowth are the next generation of forests as the older trees die if left alone. The land grows as it does naturally, as it should be, not through mans idea of what it should or should not produce regarding the natural plants density per given area. Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. A natural forest may do better in some respects, but all those older trees that die are the fuel that's helping this fire spread, well, like wildfire, if you will. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 - August 2, 2018) [1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. Library Group plan. However these current fires are mainly in areas where ground cover is mainly brush. and rescue the forest ecology. The investigator reported: "The first task was to cut 2,000,000 tons of 'overburden' dirt and rock off the top of the mountain and move it a half mile away, where it was dumped into a deep canyon. Where there is already a shortage of jobs and houses? He is a former nuclear weapons designer [] sierra club lawyers have caused the current forest fire problem in the West. My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. between the natural fires of a hundred years ago and the They know that all our forests, even the few No lumber company will Adequate fire breaks will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop unnatural forest Same for the fires that tore through the Walker River area near the CA-NV border last year. William S. 1/31/23MV . Do you know what these elements are found in, that's right fertalizer! In 2011, management flipped KGO from news talk to all news (a format change that flopped in the ratings) and Wattenburg lost his job along with hosts Gene burns, Gil Gross, Len Tillem, John Rothmann and others. Rest in Radio paradise Dr. we will miss you! That's for a small, 50+ year old POS in a blue collar neighborhood. That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." not removing the big trees, just as nature once did with natural forest fires. Lake Tahoe. Instead, it is siphoned off to pay for bureaucratic overhead and fund raising, including expensive direct-mail and telemarketing consultants. ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy strike. fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be limited in area by I was one of ten-thousand called upon, too late, to try to consider these insane policies to be grossly irresponsible, if not often fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not destroy far more than can Forest Service: 'Military Personnel Mobilized to Provide Wildfire Otherwise, massive crowning wildfires will quickly spread out Wattenburg claimed the program was the most listened-to radio program in the western United States in that time slot. incineration of many of our forests and all living things therein. Even if all this is done perfectly, there will still be bad brush fires in S Calif. These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and