Nobody but nobody doesnt sprint for 5th at the end of a Monument. There are no gaps you might shut up for five seconds or so to listen to the crowd, but thats it.. The very aspect of commentating that requires filling the gaps spanning hours of no action is the reason. Here they are listed below, but we already know there will be one change - Team Sky will be racing as Team Ineos, with the Tour de Yorkshire being its first race following the management company's sale to the petrochemical business. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. With very little data being sent to them, and some pretty bad camerawork they have made a good fist of the event in Spain. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. Well, Kirby says, when its all out action on the road its very easy the problem comes on longtransition stages. Such things impact ones reputation a lot, and there is no way around it. As we reported at the time, the six-time Olympic champion tweeted that he had been on a Sunday bike ride with his son when they were almost run over by a van driver who drove at us, then proceeded to angrily inform me it was my fault we nearly died.. The demands of media and multimedia these days make it more of a serious problem. Also, I would say many of his criticisms are unfair and/or cruel. 1/9/22 4.2km to go, Stage 12 Vuelta a Espana: the riders are going uphill.Kirby: as they get to this step, but it doesnt last long, its like your mums old step, give it a polish, give it a clean and then a clean pair of heels to everybody else. There is no editing process, except between the brain and the larynx. But saves my life" German governments helmet advert sparks sexism row, - Sir Gary Verity steps down from Welcome to Yorkshire for health reasons after "errors of judgement" with his expenses, -Bristol taxi driver who cut up cyclist and braked in front of him has licence revoked (+ video), -Porn Pedallers to carry on riding despite being stripped of British Cycling affiliation. carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021 - nehantech.com COME ON WRITE TO EUROSPORT AND LETS GET HIM OFF ! Eurosport will never get rid of Carlton Kirby, he receives so much fan-mail that it will far out way any negative feedback they get from him. Eurosport's commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. Quite brilliant and gutsy from Tom. AndKirby wouldnt have it any other way, even if there are those who dont always appreciate what goes into calling a Tour de France stage. He's ruining the sport I love - I avoid many races purely because he's the commentator. The unrelenting, inane chatter (did any of us want to know that his wife had their third child by caesarean section? They have produced some merchandise like cycling caps and badges, they get together at Carltons events. Please enter your email so we can keep you updated with news, features and the latest offers. As just one example, the long list of criticisms he has levelled at Thibault Pinot. The problem is that social media has allowed anyone and everyone to voice their opinion, regardless of their credibility. It doesnt take much accomplishment to understand what Kirby is referring to. Seriously. So many other cycling commentators on Eurosport. PLEASE CONTACT EUROSPORT/GCN INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL AS SIGNING, BECAUSE THAT WILL PROBABLY HAVE A GREATER EFFECT. You don't need to be that close to the riders to get snaps. Hence, To be qualified to fill up that huge amount of time is, quite naturally, a daunting job. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. Fantasy Cycling: game [at] road.cc Without wishing to be too disparaging to Mr. Kirby, I dont have Eurosport or the ability to watch cycling live, so I have to make do with highlights. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. Create a personalized feed and bookmark your favorites. I think as well that audiences will be sympathetic, so even if they know were not there, we will be upfront and honest about it. Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). Thus, the commentary that you hear wont come from the finish line, but rather from some television studio thousands of miles away. Carlton kirby - has to go !! | Cyclingnews Forum But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. I don't think much does get through to him, I really wish it did. By using this website, you agree to our use of cookies. Ill ring someone up on-site to talk to them. Theyre the best stages, and the most exciting ones, but often as a commentator the days you take the most pride in are actually the ones where absolutely sod all has happened! Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! Carlton Kirby discusses the art of commentary, says thank you to those who enjoy listening to him. You can do that by clicking one of these links - TAKES 30 SECONDS: https://help.eurosport.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new, https://help.globalcyclingnetwork.com/hc/en-gb/requests. And then on day one on Utah beach..boom..Cavendish stuns the previously unbeatable German racer. It is all well having experience, but at some of the smaller races who are the guys riding these bikes? If its one of those days where its going to end in a sprint and you need to cover 240km, then its gonna be a bit of a drag. You must log in or register to reply here. Thanks to all who have signed. Were literally opening up Sean Kellys cranium to learn the nuances of the sport, and he comes out and says which guy is going to go on and win the next day. You always get letters or emails from people who really enjoyed your commentary, but youll always get those who hate every fibre of your being.. I usually increase the pace especially on a sprint day to match the peloton, Kirby admits. Yeah he does. Once its out there youre done, so youll just have to forgive me if I make the odd gaffe. I think you need to be a specialist to be a cycling commentator, yet he covers several sports on Eurosport. theres nowhere like ENOUGH cycling on tv. Id love to see this Eurosport commentator substantiate even 1% of the outrageous claims he makes. I can't understand why Eurosport need to use him when they gave at least four other knowledgeable commentators, even without Harmon. Carlton Kirby (@carltonkirby) / Twitter And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. UPDATE: New online Zoomcast show, July 16, click through for tickets. In the second episode of Story Time with Carlton Kirby, the Eurosport commentator reads an excerpt from his book (Magic Spanner) about how British cycling caused a seismic change in the. According to the Telegraph, cyclists and joggers could be targeted as part ofa new Government initiative to work out who is leaving waste behind in countryside. For no reason. You can't work commentating on it for as long as he has next to informative ex-pros without some of it getting in through osmosis at the least. A new bike is coming very soon! He is thinking Champs Elysees. I agree listening to the mans over stressed enthusiasm really gets on my nerves. The man, the myth, the chosen son. While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. If she wins so does everyone else. Tony Martin scared everybody with his breakaway, says Etixx chief. Shouldnt be that hard to organise with so many people here able to talk eloquently and intelligently for 4 hours. Carlton Kirby: What inspired Chris Froome's golden era - Eurosport To my mind, the motorised vehicles are getting far too close, a point I continue to pick up on commentary. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVams overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. Cycling broadcaster Carlton Kirby on why stats aren't everything - Betway Or at least diminished. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. He has to engage with the directors in the ear, guarantee that innumerable hours of gaps are filled in suitably, deal with incoming radio announcements, all the while tackling an uproar of a different kind with the action around him. And his constant er, er, erms.. all the time were extremely irritating. Carlton Kirby and His Approach On Commenting for GCN and Eurosport This Year: While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, a principal commentator for Eurosports cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator's weekly guide to what's not going on in cycling during the lockdown. You take yourself to the studio, call up your procyclingstats.com, do your research online. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. I realise that commentating on a race involving nearly 200 riders is challenging, but since 1986 I have always been able to follow what is going on thanks to the commentary. A lot of these guys seems to have free rein on what they are doing. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. We have seen far too much of it - near collisions as much as actual collisions over the past few years. -"Looks like shit. Story Time with Carlton Kirby - How British cycling went - Eurosport The rest is very monotonous and quite naturally the onus of filling that gap falls on the commentator. Ive been up the Galibier. I think its just taking a breath and think about the consequences, he concluded. And thats where comes the utterly significant role of the commentator who not only has to fill the huge time span but needs to stay alert at all times. https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/1698 ant-drivel, http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85131. We have a quiet conversation about who is going to win today. It just stays online forever. Jason Kenny has recounted to the BBC the near miss he and his infant son Albie encountered while out cycling last month. And yet, love him or loathe him, Kirbys voice is as intrinsically linked to the Tour de France, for Eurosport viewers at least, as other famous voices across the sporting spectrum. We need to get to tomorrows finish line, and sometimes that is a four-hour drive. Ive gotten drunk on the Galibier and been evacuated off the Galibier. if many people would do this via twitter it could at least give a sign. It's embarrassing now. For every Nicolas Roche or Steve Cummings great characters, totally locked down there are some savage bastards out there, and we love them all. I don't have anything against him personally, but he doesn't seem to get the basics of the sport. Marcel Kittel gesticulates as Mark Cavendish wins stage 14 of the Tour de France ahead of Peter Sagan, Stage six finish: Cavendish edges Kittel again in thrilling finale, WATCH: Moment Cavendish finds out he has won. And alongside everything going on in his ear and on the screens in front of him, Kirby says the booths themselves can be a sourceof distraction from the job of commentating. Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . I think there seems to be a bad feeling against cyclists and its really strange because theyre only people, he continued. (@StasaZlatanovic) March 24, 2019. Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. They support his knowledge and enthusiasm behind the mic, even after so many years. I'm constantly berating or pointing out the danger of the motorcycle. "Beware everybody, he is well and truly back!" yelled Carlton Kirby on Eurosport commentary. Win! For me Kirby has the key ingredient I need from a commentator. Uhhh, Ill say Bettiol. or maybe you,re a relative ?? Why Stats Aren't Everything By Cycling Broadcaster Carlton Kirby OK. And then, we wait. For mine, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. Bit harsh, Quigley is a lot more knowledgeable. I changed to German commentary on eurosport international today I was so mad. American racers headed to Italy chime in. It is not just the press core looking for pictures for the following day. There must be so many ex-pro riders out there who would give valuable commentary and insight into the races. and clearly was totally clueless. Eurosport's Carlton Kirby in Conversation - Magazine - Ride Velo How much longer do the cycling public have to suffer the idiotic commentary from Carlton Kirby ?? Would the football fans be subjected to him commentating on the football matches ? All rights reserved. Kittel threw his arms up in the air, and lost not only first place, but second, third and fourth..winding up in fifth because of his complaints. Well over a 1000 signatories on that petition now. Whenever I watch an anglophone stream online because there is no other way for me to watch a race I have to think of the HIMYM episode where Barney goes to get Robin from Canada and, looking at the "funny" Canadian dollars, says: "It's like you want us to make fun of you". His cycling life began during his students days, when he cobbled togethera few hundred quidoff the back of a hard winter selling hats (long story) and bought hisfirst road bike - a Trek 1.1 that was quickly relegated to winter steed, before it was sadlypinched a few years later. join Outside+. Carlton Kirby brings his True Tales of the Tour de France to Reading on Weds June 21, a little over a week before #TDF2023 , as he launches his new @BloomsburySport book, Sticky Bottle . I speak no language other than English. We usually have to drive to the finish line, which is where the commentary positions normally are theyre like double-decker coaches all lined up there, Kirby sayd. That is common in France and Belgium with a dedicated roving reporter from the race roving all over the peloton and having a chat. Painting a verbal picture of a five-hour race is stream of consciousness, and to be able to do that effectively, you just need to be there. Colnago is using social media to tease the arrival of its new E64 Performance, which well go out on a limb and guess is the companys attempt to tap into the rapidly growing e-bike market. Especially on the downhill runs which is a crazy situation. Kittel is not a broken man, but his supremacy has tumbled because Mark Cavendish has only gone and won four stages here. why must us cyclists have to tolerate a commentator who has no knowledge of professional cycling. More often than not they slip into commentary which is at best nationalistic, and at worst xenophobic. Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In on Stitcher Creativelyreplacing it witha Trek 1.2, Jack mostly rides this bikearound local cycle paths nowadays, but when he wants to get the racer out and be competitive hispreferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking - the latter being another long story. Youre at the finish line, essentially watching the TV albeit with extra screens.. While he admits Sagan's explusion for. I make notes of the corners, pinch points, danger points, acceleration points, attack points all of those things.. At least he can string a sentence together and he seems to bring good comments out of Backstedt. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. Kirby has more than two decades as a. Kirby remarks, Its not like a written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it. It is all clearly not set in stone at the moment, and I hope that I'm not going to have some sharp intake of breath moments on commentary just because bikes are needlessly endangering the lives of cyclists. We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. Bridport cycles. What is his cycling background ? You can get every picture you need from in front of the peloton. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. On rest days we circulate to meet with everybody. Theres an awful lot of distractions to keep on top of, so if you happen to be looking at your notes when somebody has a moment and you dont see it, its not your fault., Kirby laughs. "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," says Carlton Kirby, principal commentator for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. "Oh! Mrs John Murphy May 3, 2010 2,662 0 0 Aug 26, 2011. De Gendt, ganador de la primera etapa de la Volta 2019. It is really sad when you see the consequences of that. You have entered an incorrect email address! Hes done it four times, and I think he might want to do it again on the Champs-lyses. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" because there wuld be an uprising in the country. The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. Eurosport's Carlton Kirby and cycling legend Sean Kelly reacted like the viewers at home - at first incredibly concerned, then mightily relieved. One of the most adaptable voices on British Television, as can be seen from hisworking synopsis, Carltons range is wide. Personally I think Harmon and Brian Smith are the best team. Terms and conditions of use. The races are only on GCN/Eurosport. Carlton Kirby: Mark Cavendish the greatest sprinter of all - Eurosport There are already calls for a convening of UCI protocol committee so they can start to get some proper rules together about it. One of the worlds most iconic cycling brands appears set to launch an e-bike. Kirby is a shockingly bad commentator, but Harmon is not much better. Continuing our discussion of 2020's cancelled/postponed races continues, Eurosport bon viveur Carlton Kirby discusses why riding up Swiss mountains is easier than riding up French mountains; villages accessible only by ladder; the world's highest lighthouse; 70s balladeer Gilbert O'Sullivan; human . It is just crazy the amount of automotive stuff on the go, whether that is cars or motorcycles, that are getting too close to the riders, too often. He further says, "In tennis, you never talk through a point because the crowd doesn't. When youre part of the race caravan, all you talk about is the race. I think people will appreciate what were trying to deal with. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. And, he is right about it. ADDITIONAL: 13/4/21 - Some have said that this petition is 'cruel', but if you're in the public eye then you are open to criticism of your professional abilities - or are we now not allowed to criticise the abilities of authors, actors, sports people, musicians, etc.? Thats because the Tours largest broadcasters are staying at home due to the COVID-19 pandemic, rather than broadcasting the race on-site in France. pic.twitter.com/MaRgbFKTet, The Ella Roberta Family Foundation (@rosamund_ElsFdn) March 25, 2019, @emmachamberlain at her soul cycling class. Its not something thats learned, or something you can prepare for. But, Kirby has to do that, without fail. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. Before Kirby hits the airwaves, he touchesbase with Eurosport HQ in Paris,and then its time to take to the microphone. And it is at that point, Cav comes out of the shadows to mug him at the line. 2008present unless otherwise stated. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. Driver escapes punishment for alleged hit-and-run on cyclist, as victim blasts police inaction and barriers to justice. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. Let us know what you think in the comments. Me too. There is a rumour that the plane ticket has already been bought for Mark to leave the Tour, but I think the temptation is there for him to go to the Champs-lyses because he believes in his mind that he has worked out how to unpick Marcel Kittel, who is his main threat. Commentating during the 2022 Ronde with 222km to go, Kirby says: Aranburu could have finished as high as 5th in Milan-Sanremo, but didnt think it was worth his while so he eased off at the end and came in 13th. Its windowless. There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. Carlton kirby - has to go !! | Cyclingnews Forum The youngsters were congratulated by the force on Twitter, as they helped chase down a thief who had stolen over 300 worth of goods. Listen to Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In on TuneIn All of that is avoidable if you have the right distance and the right protocol in place. We cant do that when hes at his house and Im at mine. Carlton kirby - has to go !! | Cyclingnews Forum Learn More, Blog: Abusing other cyclists highlights everything wrong with cycling in Britain, Chris Froome backed by strong Team Sky squad for Vuelta a Espana, Vuelta a Espana 2015 route: five stages which could decide the race, Vuelta a Espana 2015: five stages which could decide the race. We met a young boy and young girl who recently lost their mum, and its really sad when you see that side of it. Eurosport cant get away with this !! Even once the race itself is over, and the post-analysis is done, theres a second race to get away from the finish line. Stay tuned! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. As a small example, he started talking to Magnus Backstedt about tyre widths the other day ("weren't you the 27 mm guy?") (PS If there's anything here about donating, that's the website host - nothing to do with this petition - there is nothing to donate to. The schedule and time duration work differently for every sport. What you are talking about is a place in history. After a long journeyback to the hotel, often punctuated by Kelly taking media calls especially on the stages he himself would have thrived on during his career its then a debrief over dinner and back to bed for a seven-hour sleep and restarting the process again the next day. Tour of Turkey cycling video - 'He's back!' - Mark - Eurosport Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. Quite often you are talking while being handed a note, being spoken to by the director, and listening to race radio at the same time as well, says Kirby. Story Time with Carlton Kirby: Mankini's and mechanicals | "The I like Carlton too, not as much as Harmon, granted, but I've given up on him coming back. Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. Of all the criticisms that can be leveled at him (not recognising riders, not admitting he doesn't recognise a rider), being only interested in angolophone riders isn't one of them. When asked about the criticism, Kirby opined Its not like the written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it, I dont have that gift. He kept on saying, Its gone, its irretrievable. I have been speaking to (former cyclist and Eurosport expert) Sean Kelly about it at various races, and we have both had hold your breath moments. Set the scene for us. How can someone who watches so much cycling know so little? . Carlton Kirby: Tour De France Commentator Brian Smith is very good and I feel for him having to listen to Kirby's dumbfounding comments. The commentators day doesnt juststart when the racing does, with research and planning underwayas soon as breakfast is taken. Also, Kirby criticises riders in almost every race. That is because like most hacks they are too arrogant to do any research and preparation. For example, I know that Jakob Fuglsangs last name means bird song, which is a nice little thing. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby has called for action to regulate the role of motor vehicles in the sport following the tragic death of Belgium's Antoine Demoitie, who was. You cant please everybody and as a commentator thats something you have to get to grips with. Being on the site always gives you extra material which makes the commentating so natural and energetic. Now it is live pictures going onto blogs, stream TV pictures. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. Among the big names the Belgian put time into today were Alejandro Valverde, fourth overall and 2 minutes 56 second down in fourth place overall, and Team Skys Egan Bernal, a further 1 second back. Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. You sit there, its often quite quiet, and you get brought an exotic meal like a guacamole sandwich. Nonetheless, one other thing that Kirby believes, sets the very best apart is commitment. He spoils everyones enjoyment of the race with his silly so called jokes and rubbish talk. Ive now just watched the end of Milan-Sanremo again: Aranburu wasnt in the first group behind Morhoric, so he literally couldnt have come higher than 10th. So, our information can be slightly second-hand. VN:So, what really is gained by being on-site? The road curved, but it was nothing to concern one's self with. And hes trying to improve them. They only received compensation a couple of years later. Interview: Life on Tour with Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby Discovery through its international sports unit, it operates two main channels Eurosport 1 and Eurosport 2 across most of its territories, and streams on Discovery+, which superseded Eurosport Player.